Episode 4 - Revolutionizing Wellness in the Workplace with Dr. Matt Chalmers

Heart-pounding moments and life's unpredictabilities often catch us off guard. Dr. Matt Chalmers joins me to share how this executive's close encounter with mortality sparked a company-wide revolution, emphasizing the non-negotiable necessity of regular health check-ups, especially for those in high-stress roles like sales. We open up about our own run-ins with stress and explain why preventative care isn't just a nice thought—it's a must-have for anyone looking to go the distance in their career.

Dr. Matt Chalmers - Thriving Beyond Belief

We also tap into mental wellness and the groundbreaking potential of psychedelics in treating PTSD and addiction. Dr. Chalmers leads us through his experiences beyond the traditional healthcare fence, discussing his work with Delta 8 for pain management and his successful ventures in utilizing ketamine and psilocybin. We share compelling personal accounts and historical research to paint a vivid picture of the healing powers these substances hold, particularly for veterans and first responders who have walked through the fire of trauma.

Key Moments

  • -Dr. Chalmers's craziest sales story!
  • -Managing pain isn’t enough - tackling addiction can be done.
  • -The power of using psychedelics and alternative therapies for treating ailments and diseases.
  • -How the impact of trauma on veterans and first responders can be regulated and treated with specific, innovative therapies.

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Call the Damn Leads, the show by sales professionals for sales professionals. I'm your host, Drewby Wilson. With more than two decades in the sales industry, I have seen it, heard about it, lived it, and I'm here to share all the crazy sales stories that we get working in the sales industry and bringing something to the community that excites me. Because here's the truth: sales and sales and sales, there's a lot of different stuff out there that we can sell, and there are a million ways to make a million dollars. The fun is sharing within the community and talking about all those crazy stories—the good, the bad, the ugly, everything in between.

Today's guest is someone I'm very, very excited to have on. He's a personal friend; he and I have been working together for close to 5 years now. Today's episode is about more than just sales; it's about understanding how important your health and wellness are to success in sales. So, I'd like you to help me welcome my friend, Mr. Dr. Matt Chers. What's up, bro?

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: A Crucial Element for Sales Success

Hey, what's up, man? So, okay, I got my sales story for you; it is hilarious and quite dark. Well, come. So, one of my buddies, a CEO, brought me in to do a sales pitch to his whole C-suite about the executive physicals I do and stuff like that. He was like, "If you can sell our accountant, our CFO, he was like, everybody will do it." I'm like, all right. So, I go in, and I explain the whole thing. We talk about calcium CTs, echocardiograms, and the entire deal. I talk about how this is the best way to figure out if you've got any issues with your heart or anything like that.

And I told them how much it is, the whole deal. And the guy goes, "Well, I get my cholesterol pulled, I see my doctor every year religiously every six months, so I don't think that this is something we need to spend this type of money on, and so we're good." And I was like, all right, fine. Because I don't chase people. Like, that's one of the weird things. If you don't care enough about your health to do something about it, I won't try to convince you to pay me and care about yourself. So, cool, call me back whenever you decide it's essential.

About four months later, I got a call from the CEO, who said, "All of us want you to come back and do your entire physical for everybody on the C-suite." And I was like, all right. What made you change your mind? The guy who told me that we didn't need to do it had a heart attack, and had we been able to do the echocardiogram and calcium CT, we would have found it, and we would have kept him from having the heart attack. So, you know, it's one of those things that, like, it was a straightforward sell once I said, "If you do these things, you'll know if you're gonna have a heart attack," and he was like, "We don't need that," and then the dude has a heart attack a couple of months later. So, that was my favorite sales story because that office not only got them, but I got four or five other offices that they're all friends with.

It was a great day because I got about 20 or 30 sales out of it. Luckily, the guy survived, and we were able to help him get back to health. But that was just the thing; it was, you know, that was just my favorite thing because it's like, hey, the sales guy who came and told you all this stuff, the expert you had come in and explain all this stuff to you, and you were like, "Man, that's just sales trash, that's not real," and then like immediately we find out, no, it's not sales stuff, it's real. So, that was my favorite story so far.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: The Key to Stress Management and Preventive Health

That is hilarious and, you know, divine timing. I shared a meme earlier and must cut it into this clip. It's two, but basically, the first part is, "Hey, you chose not to move forward," and the second is, "And you're still having the same problems." And it's perfect for this scenario because the guy didn't die. He survived; he made it on. But what an awareness is to have something like that happen. And if you're in sales, there are two things to take away from this: a) You can't predict the future. Like, I love you, but you can't predict the future.

There's just no way. I don't care how healthy you feel or might be. If you are not regularly checking the oil and getting tuned up, you are 100% setting yourself up for failure. And also, being someone personally who has had my addictions and life, whatever they may be, caffeine especially being one that I'm a big fan of these days, you know, the idea of protecting your heart and not wanting to have a heart attack—I mean, sales is one of the most stressful jobs in the world.

So, Matt, what made you get into selling this service and protecting high C-suite level executives? Because we've talked about it, I'd love the listener to understand how important this truly is. So basically, what a lot of this came back for me was I wake up at 4, do research, and just read medical research. I've done it for over a decade, at least two hours daily. And I started finding all these things, and I was like, "Why am I not doing this?" And then, you know, so that I would go out, and I get the sleep study, and that's how I figured out how to fix epilepsy and stuff like that.

And so, you know, I was like, "Oh, I need to do this for me, and oh, I need to do this echocardiogram for me and my kids and stuff like that." And so, as I do this research and start figuring out, we know how to prevent things and how to look now to look at the future. The difference is that insurance will only pay for a problem once you've got it. And most of the time, if you have a heart attack, you have one because the first heart attack you have kills you. And so I was like, "Well, I don't want to walk down that road." My grandfather died of a heart attack, my, you know, I've got family members, so I'm going to look into this. And I found out how easy it was to prevent, and I was like, "Oh, all you had to do is just pay cash for this stuff, and you can get all the stuff, all these tests done."

So, I put this together, more of just the stuff that I've done for me because, you know, it was necessary, and the research was very, very obvious on the massive benefits. And so, I was like, "Well, I'm just going to do these things for me." And then people started coming up, saying, "Hey, what do you do? Like, what do you do for you?" And I gave them the list, and they're like, "Why did you do all this?" And I broke it all down for them. They say, "Oh, well, I want to do this." And so, that's how it started, building up. It was like, do you need a McLaren? No.

The Honda Accord gets you from point A to point B, but if you want the best brakes and the best, you know, everything, you kind of step up to that level. And until you get to that level, you don't know how nice it is. But we found we did calcium CTs that looked for plaque in the arteries, and I found a cyst growing around a tumor growing around a guy's heart that would have killed him. And, you know, I sent him to my cardiac surgeon and had it cut out.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: The Crucial Role of Preventive Measures and Personal Responsibility

It's funny because my cardiac surgeon calls this guy, and he goes, "You're going to be in my office on Tuesday for surgery." And he goes, "Tuesday, my patient goes, 'Two days doesn't work great for me.'" And he goes, "I don't think you understand. This is going to wrap around your heart and kill you, maybe next week, maybe a month from now, don't know, but it's soon." And so, he had to go in and had it all cut out, and he was like, "Oh my gosh, that was a big, big piece of chunk, that stuff that wrapped around my heart." So, the big thing is, if we don't look, we don't know. And, you know, there's a lot of things, like diabetes is super easy to fix, but it's even easier to fix if I know about it coming into it. If we look for it, we're like, you're walking down the road of insulin sensitivity or insulin resistance to diabetes, I can fix it today a whole lot easier. So, you know, that's just the thing. If we look and find the problems, we can fix them today, you know?

Matt, that's beautiful because it correlates well with sales, right? As sales professionals, our job is to ask questions, get a feel for what someone's doing, going through, and dealing with, and then put something in place to avoid getting them the thing they don't want preventively. It's like, you want to keep your business? Well, let's get you some leads so you can call the damn things and make more money. Oh, you don't have a process? Well, let's install a process so that you know there's consistency with every lead, and you can track every dollar you spend with an ROI. Hey man, every time you go out to eat, you pick something healthy instead of getting deep-fried fast food.

And I know sales of sales. I love Taco Bell. I love convenience eating. That is the way I roll. Don't get me wrong; I'm not perfect. I do recognize, though, that the 300b version of myself was not nearly as successful, did not have near the energy, and didn't indeed have the confidence that the 200b version of myself does today. And that all comes from having someone like, hey man, here's your choices. You can keep doing what you're doing and getting the same results that you've been getting, or we can make a couple of small changes and see what happens. These are the expected results. The expected results also include not dying, not letting some other sleep in your wife's bed in your home that you paid for, and raising your children because you were too much of a to go and get a test done. It's like, well, that's a sale.

The last part of that is the biggest one for me because, like, you know, if it was just as much as you know, and everybody who knows me knows my feelings about how unbelievably excellent Lou is, but you know, if I died, I know Lou is going to be okay. That's not that big of a deal. My whole terrified thing is I'm not, and I don't want anybody else to raise my kids. That's my job. I want to do it.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: Leading by Example

And so, the other thing is that one of the things I heard a long time ago that I found is probably the most accurate thing about raising kids is that kids don't listen to what you say; they watch what you do. And so if you want your kids to be healthy, you have to be healthy. If you want them to read, you have to read. If you want them to be good to their future wife or husband, you have to model that at home. And so that was my big thing. It's like, look, I want my kids to be healthy. I want them to know what's going on, so I must embody that. I have to be the example; otherwise, we won't get where we want to go.

So that's been the real big thing for me. Whenever I think about something, I'm like, do I want to do this? It's always like, well, who's watching me? Well, Zay and Lace are watching me. And then they repeat stuff I've said I didn't even know they were listening to. That's a scary thing, but at the same time, I want the best for my kids, so I'm going to model the best for my kids. That's a personal decision that I made.

That's when it's been, you know, reading all the psych, reading all the Love Languages things, learning to communicate, you know, that whole thing, the NLP stuff that I do, all that type of stuff so that I can better communicate with my kids and teach them that they've got to keep walking down this road and better themselves continuously. That's just one of the things that I've done that drives me more than anything: what my kids are saying and what my kids are going to be.

Man, that's so true, and it's such a great point because our job is to be leaders as professionals. If you've ever been in sales for any length of time and tried to raise a sales team, it's like working with a bunch of freaking toddlers. If you can teach your kids at home to behave, have manners, operate by core values, and lead the way you operate because you're 100% right, Matt, they will watch what you're doing. Whatever you say doesn't mean you aren't following that same thing with your actions. Words mean nothing if the actions don't, and kids are perfect at spotting that.

Which is why it happens when you start training a sales team. If you're training your sales team and say, hey, you got to make 100 calls a day, but you only pick up the phone ten times, what will they do? They'll pick up the phone 10 times. It's funny because every once in a while, as a parent, your kid says something, and you're like, yeah. So the other day, my son asked because I was doing a fast.

I was doing a Sunday to Thursday fast, and he asked me, do you want me to make you a burger? I was like, sorry, buddy, I'm fasting till Thursday. He goes, that sounds hard. I was like, uh, it's not easy. He goes, that must be why you like it because you want to do hard things. I was like, that's right. I go, why do I enjoy doing hard things? He was like, because nothing great ever came from something easy.

I was like, yes, that's right. I walked into my room and started crying. I was like, yes, he's learned something from me. I've done something right in the parenting category. So that was a lot of fun. That was a big deal for me. I love that.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: Insights from Preventative Health Initiatives, Community Projects, and Breakthroughs in Addiction Treatment

And you know, Matt, that's one of the things I appreciate about you and why I'm so glad you could come on and join me on the show. Man, because you are in a unique industry. You're in health and services, and you don't work with a lot of insurance. People pay top dollar to work with you and get your services because it is about preventative health. It's about, hey, where are you now and what can we do to launch, create longevity versus, hey man, you're all up, here's a Band-Aid, let's get you back into the battle. No, we need to fix this so you can go back to war for the long term.

You're working on some special projects right now, giving back to the community. You're going deep on truly helping sales professionals and business owners get clarity and dial in on health and wellness for themselves and their teams. Please tell us a little bit about that.

Yeah, so it's kind of an exciting story. We developed a sublingual strip for cannabis. We have it on delta-8, so we can ship it across 30 states. We made it for pain so we could push back against the opioid epidemic. I did a Ted Talk on it. It was fun. My business partner was giving me a little grief, and he was like, hey man, you figured out how to fix the pain portion. If you can just figure out the addiction piece, you've got this opioid epidemic solved.

It was all funny and ha-ha. So I was like, all right, let's see if we can figure out how to fix addiction. It took me about a week or two to find out we figured out how to fix addiction, PTSD, depression, anxiety, and all sorts of stuff in the '60s. Still, the pharmaceutical companies and the World Health Organization put a black box on it and moved all psychedelics to schedule one so we could no longer do research on it.

Then, they rolled out all their monoamine theory and all their drugs for anxiety and depression. So I started reading this stuff, and we can use things like ketamine and psilocybin amazingly safely to go through and break PTSD and addiction and things like that. The more research I did, the more validity I found in it. Then I did it myself, and one of the things that I didn't talk about until now because there was no point was I had some PTSD when I was in college. My heart rate was sitting in the 90s all the time.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: Using Ketamine and Psychedelics to Support Veterans and First Responders with PTSD

Nobody could figure out what was going on, all sorts of stuff. Then, whenever I went through COVID because I figured out how to fix COVID, we were pulling people out of hospitals to work on them and stuff like that. I got COVID real bad a couple of times, and my heart's been messed up for about two and a half years since 2021 when I laid that. It would beat way too hard. Everybody looked at it, all my buddies, nobody could figure it out.

Before I decided I was going to push ketamine and tell everybody about it, I was like, I'm going to do this first because if I'm not willing to do it to myself, I don't feel like there's a lot of integrity with me being like, you should do it for you. So I went and did it first. It was okay, but it was not something I would do for fun. I don't know why people do it for fun, but I got nauseous afterward and felt evil. I got home and lay down.

When I lay down, it was the first time in like two and a half years where my heart didn't feel like it was beating too hard. So I went to sleep that night. I woke up the next morning, my heart rate was in the 70s for the first time I'd seen it in almost 20 years. I was like, all right, this is more than just, you know, I feel good or whatever. That's when I learned how powerful this stuff is.

We started using it with veterans and first responders, fixing their PTSD and addictions. I was like, this is one of those things that when you find out about it, you have to do whatever you can to push it out. So I decided to donate 100% of the profit from the Seawell store, where all my supplements are, to my charity, citizenminds.org. We're using that money to pay for first responders, so that's police, fire, paramedics, and veterans, to go through so we can break their PTSD.

I think it's 22 guys a day who kill themselves from PTSD and stuff like that from our veterans group, and it's just as bad, if not worse for their first responders. Who do you think fishes the four-year-old kids out of swimming pools? Who goes to the car wreck where people are burned to death? Our first responders have to see that day in and day out, and they choose to put themselves between that trauma and us to help protect us.

So I was like, now we got to give back. All the money from the Seawell store goes to the charity so we can start fixing these guys. We're using psychedelics like psilocybin and ketamine to go through and fix these guys.

But the big thing is we're teaching these guys how to set the setting and the intentions. So, these medications are excellent by themselves, but if you can learn how to use them properly and get your mind right, it does a tremendous amount of good for them to carry all the way through. So that's what we're doing with, you know, the sea swore and stuff like that.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: Supporting Frontline Heroes with Integrity and Proven Solutions

So the nice thing is if you're already buying supplements from GNC or Walmart or wherever get them from our store and know that the rest of that money is, it's you're going to get great supplements, but the rest of that money is going to go to help a lot of people. So that's the big push we're going right with right now.

Man, there are so many great things about that. Again, I could give a million reasons why I love you so much, Matt, but the idea of a hey, you know, there's all of these things out here that we are as sales professionals using to self-medicate because we don't want to see a doctor or we're not in a state where it's legal to go and get these things and so we kind of find this methodology of home service.

However, the most significant part is the First Responders, the veterans, and the folks on the front lines. I have personally worked with many from those fields who end up in sales because they don't necessarily fit into your typical corporate job, right? And maybe it is some of that PTSD and some of the mindset of just dealing with things that, honestly, most humans on this planet aren't capable of dealing with.

And so there are those few individuals who go above and beyond, like the First Responders, as you mentioned, and they have to see these things and deal with them. And there's, I mean, it's hard to work through that. And so we do find that the self-medication and all that becomes a big deal, but the fact that there are ways that we can genuinely treat these problems and help people move past it for good versus just consistently putting a band-aid on it every day smoking joints or drinking to the end of a bottle.

It's so amazing that you've been able to go back and say, "Hey, listen, this already exists." It's not anything new. It's not like we have to create somethrand new idea. It's like, "Hey, this already exists. We've proven it." One of my favorite things you say, which is significant for me in sales and selling any product or service, is that you did it for me first. You're like, "Hey, I will not sell this to someone. I will not give it to anyone unless I wholeheartedly believe in it and have proven and done it with myself." Matt, that is one of the most significant levels of integrity for a business owner and a sales professional. I know I wouldn't sell this to you if I didn't use it myself.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: Supporting Recovery and Wellness through Quality Supplements and Community Care

So I love that about you, man. That's just fantastic. And honestly, this whole movement that you're on of trying to help break addiction and end the opioid crisis, man, there's so much good that I know is going to come from that in these coming years. That's why I wanted to bring you on and share and make sure people know, "Hey if you're buying supplements, get them from the Seawell store." Like, they're better quality, probably the same price that you're paying, and you know that any profits are going to help people who genuinely need it, that are probably going to be there to help you in your time of need. So, man, that is just freaking awesome.

Well, you know, I've had to be cut out of my car once, almost twice, and you know, life-flighted to Parkland, so these guys had to take care of me. They've had to take care of my family members and friends, and you know, now that I've started meeting many of these guys, they are buddies of mine. And I just feel bad for them that, you know, there's not a whole lot of help. Like if you look at what happened in Dallas a couple of years ago with all the shootings where they started shooting cops, there are a lot of guys who never really got the proper care for that. Like they got to talk about it, and that's helpful, but you know, I want to walk through and be like…

Come on, guys let's let's walk through this properly. Let's use some solo cybin let's use some canine what, whatever the state's going to allow us to use and we'll get you guys better. If the camine doesn't work here, let's why don't we fly bu you guys to Colorado for a weekend or two where we can do siloc cybin and we'll walk through that because not everything works for everybody. As the research shows K means 85% of the time it's going to get you where you want to go but that means 15% of the time we got to find something else and so that's where we start walking through some of this stuff and it's been spectacular being able to help these guys.

We're going to start posting on the on the citizenm minds.org and then obviously on all my social the Dr chmer number one just the Dr chmer one uh we're GNA be posting all these videos of these guys who you know we've did the podcast us and they talk about how how rough things were and then after we went through it how much it's benefited them and so you know that's and I wonder where you see it.

My goal is to get to the point where we we po post one video One new video a day so that means we've got to help at least 400 of these guys a year to get these things ready to post up and so you know some of these things are couple thousand dollars we got you know to get these guys fixed so it's a big it's a big deal. We're asking for a lot of cash but at the same time like I said if you want to donate donate but if you if you're just buying supplements for for you and your family get them from us and then like I said it'll really help a lot of people.

So you know and that's that's been that's been a real fun real fun thing to start walking down because everybody I talked to has been like how can I help and it's been really beneficial. And so that's why you know I reached out to you and you were like come on my podcast let's get it knocked out let's tell as many people as we can and hopefully they'll tell as many people as possible. So you know I told Ryan and he was like all right you know Ryan is he's like I'm gonna hook you up with all my guys he's like I get you with drewby I'll get you with Jose I'll get you with everybody he's like we'll get it all squared away he's like and then we'll do some stuff with my stuff as well I'm like all right cool.

So but you know it's been really beneficial like that's why I love working with the guys from Apex because you know everybody there is just we're get get the work done we're we're going to make sure people make positive change and so that's why I'm so happy to be part of the group.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: The Power of Community and High-Quality Products

Hey man, and we're honestly, you know, happy to have you. And why I love being a part of it as well. I mean, more than anything, the community is about helping people. Whether you're known in sales or you're in a corporate position, whatever it is, there are things that you're going through in your life where being around a community of like-minded success-driven individuals can truly be a benefit. And you know, Matt, you've been an amazing example of that. You went way above and beyond. You're always pouring back into the community.

You're always making a point to share this knowledge and this wisdom. And you know, I can say from personal experience, the products that you create are top-notch, my friend. The sublingual strips, if you guys are listening to this and you're into the smoking side of things, this guy has created a strip that is very, very powerful, very high quality, and it doesn't smell. There's no residual effects. You can use it and be free to carry on about your day and take care of business. So, if that's the thing you're into, I may or may not vouch for the fact that they're really, really good (emphasis on "may" cuz I like them), so go and order some.

And again, more than anything, Matt, the reason I love working with you is everything that you're doing is about giving back to the community. That's what this show is about—sharing crazy sales stories, sharing some tactics, and some things that can help people. And you know, I'm very, very conscious of time. I know time is your most valuable asset, my most valuable asset, and everyone's here. So two things I want to do before we get out of here.

One, I want to tell you how much again I appreciate you, man. And what is the best way for people to find your store? Um, I'll make sure we have all the links in the show notes and everything, but you said citizensmind.org, and then what's the wellness store for the supplements? Uh, cwellstore, just the letter c w l l s o r.com. You can hit there, you can do, you know, chrwwellness.com, the SE store on that as well.

And then, if any of you guys have websites and you're like, "Hey, add your SE store link to my website," we can. And then, what the nice thing is because we can track it, I can then go back and be like, "Hey, because of the link from your website, 10,000 people bought stuff last year. And so here's, you know, and a thousand people donated money. So here's, you know, $100,000 in tax deductions that came from you. You put it on your website, come on, came through to us, here's the receipt for the donation."

So we can do that as well. So, you know, anybody who wants to get, you know, any of that stuff together, you know, get a hold of me through DM, whatever, just like I said, Dr. Scher's one on all the socials. And, um, you know, we'll be able to put it together because I think together we can all work together really well. It doesn't take a whole lot if you're buying a hundred or $200 worth of supplements for your family a month and a thousand guys get together and choose to do that as well, we're going to help a lot of people.

And so, you know, everybody thinks, "Well, it's not, I'm not going to help out." Yeah, you are. Your $2 or $300 a month was a giant help. You know, if you tell your friends, "Hey, if you're taking supplements, get them from here," and we can be able to help people as well.

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Creating a Culture of Wellness in the Workplace: Transforming Lives with Professional Guidance on Psychedelic Treatments

Then, follow me on social media, and you get to watch. What happens when we start getting these guys better? You get to see it all the time, so the most significant thing is we all get to work together on this, and you get to see what happens. A lot of times you give money to charity, and you're like, I mean, I hope it's going to where it's supposed to go, I hope it's helping people, but in this case, it's like no, we're going to be, that's one of the things I don't demand, but I highly request is to do a podcast before and after so people can see, you know what that did help me.

The thing with we get into with our veterans and stuff like that is when you hang out with these guys long enough, they're a lot of these guys are your stereotypical like hardasses, and so they're like 'oh that works for somebody else, but that's not going to work for me.' So once they see 20 videos, they're like, 'Oh well, work for all those guys, maybe it'll work for me,' and they'll be able to go and try it out.

So now I will tell you the other thing: if you are a sales professional and you're struggling with stuff, this is for more than just guys who've been in combat or just guys who are fishing kids out of pools. The number one thing we see is we see slow cons,tant pressure: 'I've got to make my number, got to do this, my kids need this, I got to do this over here.' that constant pressure will wear down on you, and it's a phenomenal thing for you guys to do.

A lot of my guys who are sales professionals are, you know, just CEOs crushing it. They'll take ketamine every quarter to keep their minds focused and everything sharp so everybody can do it. It's just the Chari spe Al for these guys, and I would highly recommend that everybody who hasn't done ketamine hasn't done some of the Psychedelic stuff.

Get with somebody who knows what they're doing and get it done. It is wildly beneficial to your life. Yeah, do it with a professional. Don't call Jose up the street; get the bag of mushrooms and go ham at the cabin. That's not the same setting. Although it can be fun—I've been there and done that many times—it's not the professional setting we're talking about.

Matt talks about having a natural process for getting results from these treatments. And that's the whole thing, right? What correlates back to sales is that you can get exceptional results when you have a good process and do things in the right order with the proper expectations. And when you get excellent results, people will show up and go, hey man, how do I get those terrific results?

Which is all of Matt's story. Hey, I went, and I did the thing; it worked for me; people asked me about it, I told them to do it, and it worked for them. Now, we're creating an entire opportunity to help individuals worldwide. And I know I, for one, will 100% be putting this up, putting that store on there, making sure we have a link from the call the damn leads page so that we can send people to the Sea Wellness. Because I know this is something I've seen friends of mine personally benefiting from going through these treatments, I'm very excited to help promote this.

And the last thing that I want to do before we get out of here: if you have a crazy sales story, I've been in sales and seen something crazy, and I want you to come on the show. I want you to share your story. I want to help you put your mission out there. Guys like Matt come on here because they want to help the world. And I know if you're listening to this, it's because you care and want to help your community. So head over to the callthedamnleads.com podcast. You can put your information in there and share a bit about your story; we'll set up a time to come on and share the show.

If you like this, hit subscribe, share it with your friends, take some screenshots, put some clips out there, tag at call the damn leads. More than anything, make sure you follow my man Matt and get involved with this movement because he is truly helping people change lives, and I am so grateful that I get to be a small part of this. So, thank you again, Matt. Man. Thanks for having me on. You got it, brother.

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Dr. Matt Chalmers is a respected health and wellness expert known for his holistic approach to health issues. With a diverse clientele, including athletes and celebrities, he specializes in nutrition, women’s health, weight management, and holistic healing.

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